Comments on: SNL’s Run Into Some Trouble with Aphex Twin http://www.culturebully.com/snls-run-into-some-trouble-with-aphex-twin A Minneapolis-Based Music Blog Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:38:00 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Chris DeLine http://www.culturebully.com/snls-run-into-some-trouble-with-aphex-twin#comment-164137 Chris DeLine Fri, 02 Nov 2007 03:12:20 +0000 http://www.culturebully.com/snls-run-into-some-trouble-with-aphex-twin#comment-164137 haha, well, I doubt he needs to be punched, but I appreciate your sentiments. Aphex Twin could release just about anything right now (given that its labeled Aphex Twin and not AFX, or any of the other pseudonyms James has) and it would receive critical acclaim and be heralded as a much needed comeback (though Druqks wasn't that long ago, was it?)...and I would agree. I too agree with you that his importance in pop music is underestimated as his influence is genre spanning...something few artists even come close to achieving. I'll still fight you on your "he changed the face of music the world over" statement though...by definition its almost impossible to influence music on a global scale. I don't know that it can be done. His work helped change the face of pop music in primarily Western countries - but that's about as far as I'll go. Again, don't get me wrong...love the man's music haha, well, I doubt he needs to be punched, but I appreciate your sentiments.

Aphex Twin could release just about anything right now (given that its labeled Aphex Twin and not AFX, or any of the other pseudonyms James has) and it would receive critical acclaim and be heralded as a much needed comeback (though Druqks wasn’t that long ago, was it?)…and I would agree. I too agree with you that his importance in pop music is underestimated as his influence is genre spanning…something few artists even come close to achieving.

I’ll still fight you on your “he changed the face of music the world over” statement though…by definition its almost impossible to influence music on a global scale. I don’t know that it can be done. His work helped change the face of pop music in primarily Western countries – but that’s about as far as I’ll go.

Again, don’t get me wrong…love the man’s music

]]> By: Randy http://www.culturebully.com/snls-run-into-some-trouble-with-aphex-twin#comment-163404 Randy Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:20:11 +0000 http://www.culturebully.com/snls-run-into-some-trouble-with-aphex-twin#comment-163404 "“The man has changed the face of music the world over and has worked with every player worth working with out there.” - He is one of my favorite musicians, an absolute top five…but…be realistic, and remove yourself from the interwebs…no he hasn’t." I don't think he's "worked with every player worth working with out there" but it could definitely be argued that he changed the face of music the world over, even if only for a little while. As for his relevance, he may not have made any relevant music in at least 6 years, but I think the majority of his work from the 90's will always be relevant. His best material still sounds fresh and vibrant 10 (or more) years after the fact. That's difficult for any musician, and nearly impossible for an electronic musician. I'm probably preaching to the choir here, but I don't think his importance in the grand oeuvre of popular music can be underestimated. Otherwise, I agree with you and I think Steven overreacted and needs to be punched. ““The man has changed the face of music the world over and has worked with every player worth working with out there.” – He is one of my favorite musicians, an absolute top five…but…be realistic, and remove yourself from the interwebs…no he hasn’t.”

I don’t think he’s “worked with every player worth working with out there” but it could definitely be argued that he changed the face of music the world over, even if only for a little while.

As for his relevance, he may not have made any relevant music in at least 6 years, but I think the majority of his work from the 90’s will always be relevant. His best material still sounds fresh and vibrant 10 (or more) years after the fact. That’s difficult for any musician, and nearly impossible for an electronic musician.

I’m probably preaching to the choir here, but I don’t think his importance in the grand oeuvre of popular music can be underestimated.

Otherwise, I agree with you and I think Steven overreacted and needs to be punched.

]]> By: The Real Steven http://www.culturebully.com/snls-run-into-some-trouble-with-aphex-twin#comment-162666 The Real Steven Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:11:04 +0000 http://www.culturebully.com/snls-run-into-some-trouble-with-aphex-twin#comment-162666 Touché, mon frere. Touché, mon frere.

]]> By: Chris DeLine http://www.culturebully.com/snls-run-into-some-trouble-with-aphex-twin#comment-162661 Chris DeLine Wed, 31 Oct 2007 05:31:16 +0000 http://www.culturebully.com/snls-run-into-some-trouble-with-aphex-twin#comment-162661 Hey, genius (fresh, isn't it?) I never said that there was anything illegal about SNL using James' song (which there isn't, as it was a live performance and laws abide to such and such, so on and so forth when there is no duplication inherently suggested)...I did say, "just another corporate scheme to take what the people love away from them"...and dammit, the people need the voice of Culture Bully to fight for them, especially given the circumstance of a multi billion dollar corporation loosely borrowing a track from a millionaire. You're right, I concede. "You don't see Blue Oyster Cult pitching a fit over the 'cowbell' skit." - lawyers...they roam the streets at night...be careful... "And on that note, what makes you or any other shitty Pitchfork/Steroegum/cliche hipster music writer wannabe think that Richard D. James is remotely worried about the use of his work in an American sketch comedy show?" And you should know... Though I am a shitty Pitchfork/Steroegum/cliche hipster music writer, I don't. No witty comeback to that one, I just think that the neglect of a simple credit on behalf of the network was, in hindsight, rather near sided....never did I say that James did not want his music used in American television. "The man has changed the face of music the world over and has worked with every player worth working with out there." - He is one of my favorite musicians, an absolute top five...but...be realistic, and remove yourself from the interwebs...no he hasn't. "Mind you, this is the same man that Great Britain nominated as a candidate for Man of the Year in the late 90s"...and Rush was awarded the Order of Canada...I suppose that may be the equivalent of saying that music fans everywhere are looking forward to the Spice Girls reunion. I just don't understand where you are getting this slanted opinion of mine from, one which includes "distorted ideas"...please, before you take time out of your life (one, like mine, which is ever so fucking short) to rant about something so inconsequential as a reaction to MY reasoning for posting an overlapping track that features a bits of a sketch comedy act and bits of an electronic artist that hasn't been relevant for some six years....just simmer, and turn the page. Though, I must say...your focus is stunning, -Chris Hey, genius (fresh, isn’t it?)

I never said that there was anything illegal about SNL using James’ song (which there isn’t, as it was a live performance and laws abide to such and such, so on and so forth when there is no duplication inherently suggested)…I did say, “just another corporate scheme to take what the people love away from them”…and dammit, the people need the voice of Culture Bully to fight for them, especially given the circumstance of a multi billion dollar corporation loosely borrowing a track from a millionaire. You’re right, I concede.

“You don’t see Blue Oyster Cult pitching a fit over the ‘cowbell’ skit.” – lawyers…they roam the streets at night…be careful…

“And on that note, what makes you or any other shitty Pitchfork/Steroegum/cliche hipster music writer wannabe think that Richard D. James is remotely worried about the use of his work in an American sketch comedy show?” And you should know… Though I am a shitty Pitchfork/Steroegum/cliche hipster music writer, I don’t. No witty comeback to that one, I just think that the neglect of a simple credit on behalf of the network was, in hindsight, rather near sided….never did I say that James did not want his music used in American television.

“The man has changed the face of music the world over and has worked with every player worth working with out there.” – He is one of my favorite musicians, an absolute top five…but…be realistic, and remove yourself from the interwebs…no he hasn’t.

“Mind you, this is the same man that Great Britain nominated as a candidate for Man of the Year in the late 90s”…and Rush was awarded the Order of Canada…I suppose that may be the equivalent of saying that music fans everywhere are looking forward to the Spice Girls reunion.

I just don’t understand where you are getting this slanted opinion of mine from, one which includes “distorted ideas”…please, before you take time out of your life (one, like mine, which is ever so fucking short) to rant about something so inconsequential as a reaction to MY reasoning for posting an overlapping track that features a bits of a sketch comedy act and bits of an electronic artist that hasn’t been relevant for some six years….just simmer, and turn the page.

Though, I must say…your focus is stunning,
-Chris

]]> By: The Real Steven http://www.culturebully.com/snls-run-into-some-trouble-with-aphex-twin#comment-162643 The Real Steven Wed, 31 Oct 2007 04:41:33 +0000 http://www.culturebully.com/snls-run-into-some-trouble-with-aphex-twin#comment-162643 Hey, genius, I know your post here is trying to take a stand for unsung artists alike, but the fact of the matter is that there is nothing remotely illegal in someone's interpretation of another's work. It WOULD be illegal if it were a written body of work, but as it is Richard James cannot read music, much less write it (granted this is partly the beauty of his genius). And above that, SNL blatantly used the number for their skit. No one was trying to hide anything. It's fucking comedy. You don't see Blue Oyster Cult pitching a fit over the 'cowbell' skit. And on that note, what makes you or any other shitty Pitchfork/Steroegum/cliche hipster music writer wannabe think that Richard D. James is remotely worried about the use of his work in an American sketch comedy show? Truth is, he could probably care less. He's got bigger fish to fry. For shit's sake, the man has changed the face of music the world over and has worked with every player worth working with out there. Without effort, he possesses more world spread fame than most American artists could ever dream of. Mind you, this is the same man that Great Britain nominated as a candidate for Man of the Year in the late 90s (he was beat out by Elton John, and look how long it took for him to achieve that). So be a bit more careful of how you throw your tags around; "British electro-tweak?" Get a fucking clue, OK? Richard D. James worrying about NBC, would be like God punishing you if you farted in church. It's just ignorant to suggest that the big bad corporate American NBC is taking anything from someone who is way out of their league. As influential as American pop-culture may be, it isn't the world. But it's obviously the only one you live in. You know, I hate it just as much as the next when I see corporations taking advantage of the unprotected, but I at least I take the time to observe the situation beyond what's right in front of me, because thanks to you, captain obvious, the foot work of immediate observation is already done for me. Thank you for fighting the good fight. Seriously, what the fuck would I do without you. It really is a good thing we've got such open-minded, cool people out there in the blog-sphere to do our thinking for us. Really, go ahead and put your distorted ideas out there for the world to see. What makes yours any different from the untrustworthy voices coming from the idiot box? Regards, The Real Steven Hey, genius, I know your post here is trying to take a stand for unsung artists alike, but the fact of the matter is that there is nothing remotely illegal in someone’s interpretation of another’s work. It WOULD be illegal if it were a written body of work, but as it is Richard James cannot read music, much less write it (granted this is partly the beauty of his genius). And above that, SNL blatantly used the number for their skit. No one was trying to hide anything. It’s fucking comedy. You don’t see Blue Oyster Cult pitching a fit over the ‘cowbell’ skit. And on that note, what makes you or any other shitty Pitchfork/Steroegum/cliche hipster music writer wannabe think that Richard D. James is remotely worried about the use of his work in an American sketch comedy show? Truth is, he could probably care less. He’s got bigger fish to fry. For shit’s sake, the man has changed the face of music the world over and has worked with every player worth working with out there. Without effort, he possesses more world spread fame than most American artists could ever dream of. Mind you, this is the same man that Great Britain nominated as a candidate for Man of the Year in the late 90s (he was beat out by Elton John, and look how long it took for him to achieve that). So be a bit more careful of how you throw your tags around; “British electro-tweak?” Get a fucking clue, OK? Richard D. James worrying about NBC, would be like God punishing you if you farted in church. It’s just ignorant to suggest that the big bad corporate American NBC is taking anything from someone who is way out of their league. As influential as American pop-culture may be, it isn’t the world. But it’s obviously the only one you live in. You know, I hate it just as much as the next when I see corporations taking advantage of the unprotected, but I at least I take the time to observe the situation beyond what’s right in front of me, because thanks to you, captain obvious, the foot work of immediate observation is already done for me. Thank you for fighting the good fight. Seriously, what the fuck would I do without you. It really is a good thing we’ve got such open-minded, cool people out there in the blog-sphere to do our thinking for us. Really, go ahead and put your distorted ideas out there for the world to see. What makes yours any different from the untrustworthy voices coming from the idiot box?

Regards,

The Real Steven

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